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We are all bisexuals.

Unread postby Zo3R3tZo » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:35 pm

We are all bisexuals.

Willow, Eve, Azmo, Apo, everyone, let us debate here our ideas in regards to this belief.

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Re: We are all bisexuals.

Unread postby H3RM3S78 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:45 pm

Zo3R3tZo wrote:We are all bisexuals.

Willow, Eve, Azmo, Apo, everyone, let us debate here our ideas in regards to this belief.

Zo3.

Don't forget Intercourseman72, he talks about playing with poopies all the time :lol:

And now for something more serious:

People have the capacity to have sex with anyone (and anything? eeeuwe). What distinguishes bi's, gays' and straights are their aptitudes and most importantly... their prefference. THis is why we talk about "sexual prefference". Some people feel the need to advertise their prefference, others are more reserved and approach others on a one to one basis (or more, lol). Just because you try gay sex once, doesn't make you gay. And just because you never tried it with the same sex, doesn't mean you are straight; because your reactions towards the same sex may tell another tale altogether. In the end, its really a question of how you see yourself, and how others see you. That's what brands you as gay, straight, or bi.
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Re: We are all bisexuals.

Unread postby Azmodan Kijur » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:25 pm

Not everyone is bisexual as the definition is given. Bisexuality is not the capacity to have sex with someone or something. It is the act of having that sex or having a physical attraction to members of both sexes. In that way, one may not be an bisexual as they have not experienced attraction to or engaged in acts with members of both genders. I have not engaged in such acts, for example, with other males nor do I find males particularly attractive. Thus one cannot logically concluded that I am a bisexual. This should be the case for some segment of the population.
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Re: We are all bisexuals.

Unread postby willow » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:14 pm

like I said in the chat, sexuality is a sliding scale its not check one box [Hetero][Bi][Homo] its [hetero]-------x-[Bi]---------[Homo] the question is where you fall on the scale at any given time. We do know that peoples preferences do change over time, generally the parts of a person that attract us (ass, hands, eyes, breasts) will change over time.

In some people where they allign themselves on the scale can change as well, but usually its a small slide to the left or right rather then jumping completely from one sexual identity to another, and this trend is more common in women then men. Not everyone starts in the middle of the spectrum either, most people fall more or less to one pole or the other and stay there there entire lives. Hence why most gays say theve felt that way all there lives.

The idea that were all born bisexual, is as likely the claim that we are all born asexual. if it were true, bisexuality would be much more prevalent socially, but as it stands its less common then homosexuality or heterosexuality, and in some instances bisexuals catch flak from both sides as well. Although I have wondered if life would be simpler if it were true. I am not entierly sure if sexuality is tied directly to only genetics and prenatal conditions or not though, its probably one of those things whereby several different seperate factors collude.

As it stands though we have record of homosexual and bisexual behaviour almost as long as we have had recorded history, and its found in nearly every species of animal.
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Re: We are all bisexuals.

Unread postby Grimstad » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:30 am

I don't buy the "We are all bisexual" thing. Who or what you are attracted to defines you're sexuality. I can recognize and acknowledge an attractive man but that doesn't mean I'm atracted to him. If I was, THEN I would be bi or gay. Just because I am physically capable of having sex with animals does not mean I WANT to. Just because..... nevermind. Too much info. LOL
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Re: We are all bisexuals.

Unread postby Eve M. Faith » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:39 pm

alright, so it seems to me that i am the only person on here that swings both ways. that may or may not be indicative of something.

from what i have seen the only generalization that seems accurate is that people are born curious. in my opinion curious does not equate with bisexual but i have seen it taken that way many times. i think that that basic misunderstanding is what brings on the 'we are all bisexuals' view.

on the subject of attraction: anyone with a reasonably open mind knows beauty when they see it. it doesn't mean they 'want' the person it's just an acknowledgement of beauty. women seem more open to these things because there is less stigma and perceived implication for us than for men. if i was in a group of people (that didn't know me) and i said something about another woman being good looking no one would think 'she must be a lez' but if a man says this about another man...well. i think that the fellas, as a group, brought that upon themselves.
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Re: We are all bisexuals.

Unread postby Zo3R3tZo » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:53 am

Eve M. Faith wrote:alright, so it seems to me that i am the only person on here that swings both ways. that may or may not be indicative of something.

from what i have seen the only generalization that seems accurate is that people are born curious. in my opinion curious does not equate with bisexual but i have seen it taken that way many times. i think that that basic misunderstanding is what brings on the 'we are all bisexuals' view.

on the subject of attraction: anyone with a reasonably open mind knows beauty when they see it. it doesn't mean they 'want' the person it's just an acknowledgement of beauty. women seem more open to these things because there is less stigma and perceived implication for us than for men. if i was in a group of people (that didn't know me) and i said something about another woman being good looking no one would think 'she must be a lez' but if a man says this about another man...well. i think that the fellas, as a group, brought that upon themselves.


Aaah. :) Finally a woman to lighten the mood, and give my starting words meaning I can understand and identify myself with.

For the record Eve, you are not the only one that swings both ways on this forum. Some people may hide it; deny their curiosity; scold the concept; or otherwise- but I, being a woman probably has to do with it though (as you said- it is indeed easier for us to percieve bisexuality in this way: as a perception, acceptance and appreciation of beauty, whether it'd be masculine or femenine beauty), am no different than you in this regard. And I most certainly cannot be the only one to agree.
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Re: We are all bisexuals.

Unread postby H3RM3S78 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:55 am

Are there any women on this forum that aren't bisexual? I've said this before, but all women in Montreal are lesbians (some of which also sleep with men).

If anything, most people acknowledge that it is trendy for women to be bi. These days, i feel shock and surprise when a woman admits she is completely straight. Coincidentally, most of the straight women i know are too old to follow trends anymore, or are religious.

I used to hear about bisexual, bi-curious, straight, gay, fetish, bdsm, etc... all the time. It got to a point that i got sick of it. Its all just more labeling: groups of people to pat eachother on the back. Sex is really not that important to me. That said, i understand there was a huge sexual revolution that happened through the 70's-2000's. Nowadays, these things are rather bannal, but back then you had to fight for your rights. Being gay in the 80's meant something. Now its just trendy... tatoos and body-peircing.

The sudden rise of sexual ambiguity, which lead to mass sexual curiousity/bannality, is perhaps just a symptom of a hyper-sexualized society. It used to be that you needed a car to be cool. Now all you need is a girlfriend(s) and a boyfriend(s). I don't think all this obsession over sex is really an answer to anything.

There is a reason why people decided to be monogamous and faithful at some point in the past. I'm not sure why exactly, but i have been ponderring it for a few years now. My main idea is that sex, without the consequence of contraception, becomes a simple yet powerful drug. I know sex is natural, but we as sentient beings have a responsibility to choose what is right for us. What some people see as an innocent pleasure, is also the single most powerful tool of corruption for others.
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Re: We are all bisexuals.

Unread postby Eve M. Faith » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:26 am

Are there any women on this forum that aren't bisexual?
yes, my sister isn't.

I've said this before, but all women in Montreal are lesbians (some of which also sleep with men).
a strange land the likes of which i have never seen.
if i were to guess, i'd say 80% of the people i know/meet are straight or gay/lesbian (and i live next door to San Francisco)
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back then you had to fight for your rights...
gays still have to fight for their rights here.

The sudden rise of sexual ambiguity, which lead to mass sexual curiousity/bannality, is perhaps just a symptom of a hyper-sexualized society.
this i totally agree with.

What some people see as an innocent pleasure, is also the single most powerful tool of corruption for others.
sure, so are most other pleasurable things. a sad truth.
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Re: We are all bisexuals.

Unread postby Intercourseman72 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:05 pm

i agree with this hypothesis partly because people would obviously be more flexible with their sexuality in a less bigoted and sexually repressive environment, but i wouldn't go so far as to take this hypothesis up the ass or in the mouth. I have tried looking at gay and bi porn and stuff, but it doesn't turn me on much at all (not the dudes fucking parts at least). I like having hot girls to glance at while i'm bored during class and dosing off and not really thinking about anything. I'm just sort of looking around the room thoughtless totally bored out of my mind and devoid of any cognition. While i am in this zombie mode, i can't ever remember looking at a guy for eye candy. I am simply not attracted to men.

That's my personal experience with my attraction to people, and i am not any scientific authority on this subject but i have heard that natural (not cultural preference) sexuality is largely determined in the womb. The more testosterone the baby gets, the more masculine it will be. Sometimes it gets enough androgens to develop into a male, and sometimes it does not get enough and develops into a female. There is obviously going to be a lot of variation with the amounts of testosterone each baby gets, and there you have variations in sexuality. You can have a masculine female and a feminine male or whatever.
Also, i heard something about how women who have lots of children are more likely to produce a gay male or a female as she has more of them. Supposedly the womb treats the baby as a foreign object and gets better at controlling it as she has more kids. So as the womb learns to make the baby more like mommy and the 7th boy is born, he is more likely to want to suck a cock while taking it up the ass like a bitch.

Please don't hold me to any standards of accuracy on this because i was my mother's first born male and do not like to pinned down so i can take it up the ass. Hopefully someone else here knows kind of what i'm talking about here and can elaborate more scientifically.
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